We Need Change – Part 2

If I’m going to have a warband of creepy Tzeentchian types, dedicated to complex schemes and the destruction of order and structure in all forms, then a few daemons are a must. Unfortunately the rank and file of these daemons are the Pink Horrors and for my money they’re some of the worst models in GW’s catalogue.  Just take a look at these ghastly things.

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Horrors is definitely the word! Something else is clearly in order. I’ve kitbashed a few alternatives over the years but never really settled on anything that I liked. Continuing in that proud tradition these are my latest attempts to conjure up some horrors, this time blending the plague bearers (in my view the best of the four lesser daemons, these models practically paint themselves) with the less offensive parts of the standard horrors. I tried to pass off the various wounds in the plague bearers as the flesh of the horrors reshaping itself, with results which – to be frank – look mixed. I also went for a darker paint scheme which hopefully helps make them look more brooding and ghastly and less shite than the studio versions.

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I’m still not entirely satisfied with these and only time will tell whether I decided in the end that I’m happy with them or if I want to try something else. Either way I have another one part-painted on the desk so I’ll finish it up as well and see how I feel after that. As usual any thoughts or feedback is very welcome of course.


32 responses to “We Need Change – Part 2

  • davekay

    I think they look great, the darker colours work in making the models less cartoony.

  • sgtreece

    I really like your kitbashes, they look so much more volatile than GW’s prancing marshmallow men.

  • Mikko

    I think they’ve turned out very nice! They have a lot more menace to them.

    • Wudugast

      Cheers 🙂 Menace was very much the vibe I was looking for. Not that you wouldn’t be terrified to find one of the GW ones bouncing around your livingroom but somehow the plaguebearer bodies, which suggest slower but inexorable movement, felt more threatening to me. Imagine seeing that thing creeping towards you out of the night *shudder*

  • Azazel

    They came out really well. Much better than I expected when I first read that you used Plaguebearers.

  • daggerandbrush

    As I am not familiar with the original sprues, what exactly did you change? I assume the arms?

    I like your paint scheme much better. Dark, yet vibrant and otherworldly. With future versions you could definitely do something with the tongues. Not sure what, but they already look like blades, so maybe that could be an avenue to pursue. Another idea might be to add detail to the skin and/or tongue. Maybe some pustules.

    If the models allow it you might be able to change the squat body proportions a bit and add a longer neck, even longer hands and legs.

    • Wudugast

      The arms and heads are from the pink horrors kit, the torsos and legs are from the plague bearers. Essentially the two kits are spliced together at the shoulders. You can see the original pink horrors in the first picture above, and the plague bearers here; https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Chaos-Daemons-Plaguebearers-of-Nurgle-2018

      Some very good suggestions there, I like the idea of blade tongues. I tried to steer away from pustules and the like (in fact I filed a lot of them down) because the plague bearers are covered in a lot of pustules and I wanted to make sure these looked different. I love the idea of stretching out the proportions somehow, I have an image in my head of extending the legs into some kind of Dali-esque horror, perhaps using horse legs. Haven’t quite figured out how the hell that could be done yet mind you, but I’m giving it a lot of thought 😀

      • daggerandbrush

        Great idea with the Dali legs. I would just cut the legs off, drill holes and resculpt them. The Daliesque creatures have fairly smooth legs, so might be quite easy with Milliput and some smoothing with water or sanding. If you go for a horse aesthetic you won’t have to sculpt feet either.

  • Pete S/ SP

    I like them- a bit more understated so a bit more menacing.

    Cheers,

    Pete.

  • terryshithole

    i disagreed with your opinion on the horrors, i think they’re pretty cool, but your conversions are great and i think are better than the originals.

    • Wudugast

      Cheers – that’s always the best compliment isn’t it, if someone likes a conversion I’ve made better than what the professionals came up with I’ll take that as very high praise indeed. 🙂

  • Faust

    Hmm. So, I don’t see too much wrong with the GW ones. I like the pale pink color. I think the weird thing its holding could maybe go and I’m not crazy about their blue tongues.

    Then again, I really know nothing about them other than their name. I didn’t even know they were supposed to be demons at first.

    The reason for changing stuff isn’t always apparent outside of our own vision though, so let’s move on to the changes!

    Assuming your goal was to make them more demonic, and less fae creatures, I’d say you accomplished that! The darker red with highlights of pink look nice and tie them back to their name. Your conversions, as usual, are quite spot on. My personal preference might be to remove the tongue, but there’s nothing seriously wrong with it either.

    I think you’re on the right track, so keep running with it!

    • Wudugast

      My intention was very definitely to make them more demonic. I want them to look like something that’s come stalking out of hell, rather than hell being chained to a desk and forced to paint the originals! I think I’d like the originals more if they weren’t meant to be demons actually, I mean they’re not a million miles from squigs in terms of appearance and I love squigs but these just look goofy and not frightening in the slightest. As for the tongues I’m not keen on them myself, I wanted to try painting one with a big lolling tongue because it’s one of the key features of the plastic models. Earlier – and in my view better – versions didn’t have all the tongues but these do for some reason so I reckoned it was worth at least giving it a try. I don’t think it’s something I’ll be repeating on future ones though, it works here after a fashion but I’m not exactly in love with it.

      Anyway, I’ve got one more on the desk at the moment so I’ll see how it goes and then we’ll see where I go from there! 🙂

      • Faust

        They certainly turned out more demonic looking, so job well done. Maybe you could green stuff a better tongue to throw in there?

        As for them looking like Squigs…I just heard that GW basically passes off any sort of unidentified creature as a Squig. Kind of funny, and lazy.

        Someone was asking what the creature was that’s in the hand of one the Goblin linemen. And few people mentioned the Squig thing. “Def a Squig!”. And now I know!

        I guess I thought the Horrors were some sort of silly Mage creation or summoning. Kinda like Nurglings, though I can’t say I know much about them either. I’ll just stop here, haha!

      • Wudugast

        Ah, good old squigs! So, putting on my nerd har, any creature associated with the orcs and goblins is a squig. We’re used to seeing the red beachball creatures but there’s all kinds of them. My favourite are hair squigs – orcs can’t grow their own hair so if you see an orc with hair it’s a tame(ish) squig that he’s trained to sit on his head.

        (Nurglings, funnily enough, are also daemons. Somehow, for me at least, they get away with being silly in a way that pink horrors don’t).

  • Alex

    Nice job mate, they certainly look better with the PB bodies! I wonder how they would look in a paler, fleshier pink? Almost like GS Cultist skin – that pastel look. Add lots of gribbly veins, flesh tearing as it mutates and reshapes… proper body horror stuff… 🤔

    • Wudugast

      Oooh – I’m picturing that in my head and it sounds grim! That’s really dark and nasty mate! Obviously I love it! 😀 That said I do really like the dark purple scheme, I’m wondering how a combination of the two would look though. I’ll have a bit of an experiment and see what I come up with.

  • theimperfectmodeller

    Well the only thing I can say with a great deal of confidence is that the original GW models are shit and yours my friend aren’t. 🙂

  • Kuribo

    These are much more menacing than the original sculpts which I like. It took me a minute to think about it, but I think the long tongues is what I don’t like about these sculpts. Did Gene Simmons sculpt these or what!? In all seriousness though, I really like what you did with them and the color scheme is excellent. I love the purple-pink combination for chaos because you rarely see it and the color stands out compared to other 40k armies. I used to have some Emperor’s children in a fairly similar scheme many, many years ago so I might be biased though 🙂

    • Wudugast

      Ha! Why have I never seen one of these painted with Kiss makeup?!

      Seriously I’m not that keen on the tongues myself, I thought it was worth including one as an experiment but I suspect that any of these I tackle in the future will be keeping their tongues firmly inside their mouths.

      I can see that colour scheme working really nicely for the Emperor’s Children, I hope you don’t mind if I file that idea away in the back of my skull for whenever GW gets around to redoing Slaanesh in the 41st Millennium.

      • Kuribo

        Haha, that could be a very fun mini, indeed! A tongue swap does seem like it could be helpful in this case which is a really weird conversion to describe 🙂

        Steal away! I’ve thought about doing an Emperor’s Children marine in recognition of my nostalgia but GW doesn’t seem to make any recent versions of that army (outside of the Forge World ones but that’s not what I’m looking for either) which is a shame. I’ll talk more about it next update but one of my mates has demanded that I paint something Warhammer so I’ll be tackling more minis in your wheelhouse in the future, I reckon 🙂

        Now that I’m thinking about it, I have a conversion question or two for you. Is there any chance I can email you those questions instead of leaving you a comment on here? I don’t mind doing so if you prefer, it just seems a bit odd having that conversation for all to see if you know what I mean.

      • Wudugast

        Aye, I do wish they’d redo the Emperor’s Children and the World Eaters to the same depth as they have the Death Guard and Thousand Sons. I’m hopeful it’ll happen someday and I’ve got plenty to paint in the meantime but still, I want it all now!!! 😀 In the meantime though if you’re looking for a cool old fashioned Noise Marine to paint as a one-off nostalgia hit why not this guy? https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Noise-Marine-2018

        Yeah, happy to. Drop me a line at convertordie@hotmail.com – it’s not an address I check very often but if I know to expect a message from you I’ll keep an eye on it.

      • Kuribo

        GW has to make 100 new space marine sculpts before any new Chaos can be released unfortunately! 😉 I have thought about that Noise Marine but something about it doesn’t click with me. I’m really finicky about these things as I’m sure you can tell 🙂 I’ll send you a quick email shortly. Don’t want to take up too much of your time!

  • mellis1644

    They look great but I like the GW ones as well.

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